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Around The Farm: July 12, 2013

Around The Farm:  July 12, 2013
July 13, 2013
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Around the Farm takes a quick look at some of yesterday’s performances by Indians prospects throughout the system. The positions listed below are where the player was playing in yesterday’s game.

Francisco Lindor (Carolina, SS) - 1-4, 1 E - Not much of an offensive night for the Mudcats, but he gets inclusion in ATF because he has been promoted to Double-A Akron. He will join Akron after he plays in the Futures Game this weekend. With his promotion it means that one of Ronny Rodriguez or Jose Ramirez are likely being promoted to Triple-A Columbus (or being traded).  On an other disconcerting note, Lindor picked up his 18th error of the season tonight.

Daisuke Matsuzaka (Columbus, SP) - ND, 7 IP, 6 H, 1 R (earned), 2 BB, 9 K, 1 HR allowed - Dice-K finally puts up a Dice-K-like outing but fails to get the win due to anemic run support.  However, he was good enough to keep the team in the game long enough to win it late.  While his chance to crack the big league rotation has likely passed, maybe he can at least be a reliable starter every five days for the Clippers for the rest of the season.

Blake Wood (Columbus, Rehab RP) - W (1-0), 1 IP, perfect, 3 K - Normally, the story of a rehab outing is "he got his work done, he doesn't feel any pain....good", but Friday night saw a rehabilitation performance from Blake Wood that is remarkable in its own right;  Three up, three down, all punchados.  Oh, and he picked up the win after the Clippers took the lead for good in the bottom of the fifth.  Looks ready for the Big Club to me and yet another bullpen option for the Indians at their disposal.

Yhoxian Medina (Lake County, 2B) - 2-4, 1 R, 1 2B, 2 RBI, 1 K, 1 CS - Outside of the caught stealing, this was a solid night from Yhoxian.  Not surprising given that he is posting a .316/.430/.427 slash line in Lake County.  The question is not so much whether he will get a return trip to Advanced Single-A Carolina as much as whether he can improve on his .232/.267/.256 slash line from his 23-game stint there earlier this season.

  • Tim Fedroff (Columbus, CF) - 2-4, 1 R - Tim bounces back from a 3-for-24 run in his last five games with a multi-hit night.
  • Matt Carson (Columbus, RF) - 2-4, 1 R, 1 3B, 1 K - Another player picking up mutiple hits after a rough stretch (4-for-33 in his last ten games).  However, unlike Fedroff, such solid nights are the exception rather than the norm for Carson.
  • Ryan Rohlinger (Columbus, 3B) - 2-3, 1 2B, 1 BB - Rohlinger picks up his second multi-hit night in three games, also coming off of a rough stretch (1-for-19 in his prior seven games).
  • Preston Guilmet (Columbus, CP) - S (17), 1 IP, 1 H, 1 K - Preston notches his 17th IL save of the year, good for second  in the league behind the Norfolk Tides' Jairo Ascencio (yes, that Jairo Ascencio).
  • Jose Ramirez (Akron, SS) - 2-5, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 1 K - Ramirez stays hot (.408/.442/.531 in his last ten games) with a two-hit night and the Aeros' lone RBI.
  • Carlos Moncrief (Akron, RF) - 2-4, 1 3B - Moncrief extends his hitting streak to five games and has extra-base hits in back-to-back games.
  • Jake Lowery (Akron, C) - 1-3, 1 R, 1 BB - Lowery scores the only Aeros run of the game.
  • Giovanny Urshela (Akron, DH) - 2-3, 1 BB - Urshela extends his hitting streak to five games.  A good sign given his recent struggles (2-for-19 in the five games prior to his hitting streak and .225/.244/.325 in his last ten compared to .270/.295/.403 overall the season).
  • Will Roberts (Akron, SP) - L (6-7), 7 IP,  7 H, 2 R (both earned), 6 K - Not a bad outing, but not nearly enough given the utter lack of run support he received.
  • Jerrud Sabourin (Carolina, 1B) - 1-3, 1 K - The Undrafted Wonder gets a hit on a night where the Carolina offense really struggled.
  • Bo Greenwell (Carolina, DH) - 1-3, 1 2B, 1 K - Extra-notable in that he hit the Mudcats' lone extra-base hit of the night.
  • Bryson Myles (Carolina, LF) - 1-3, 1 SB - Mylles gets a hit and his eighth stolen base of the season.  Not bad for a night like Friday.
  • Cody Anderson (Carolina, SP) - ND, 7 IP, 3 H, 2 BB, 4 K - Seven shutout innings still aren't enough to pick up a win when you literally get no run support. He went a career best seven innings on the night and continues to make a push to Double-A Akron. The only question is when the Indians will give him that greater challenge in Akron.
  • Owen Dew (Carolina, RP) - L (2-5), 1.2 IP, 3 H, 1 R (earned), 2 BB (1 intentional) - Eventually, someone was going to come in, give up a run, and take the loss.  Turns out it was Owen Dew.
  • Todd Hankins (Lake County, 3B) - 2-4, 2 R, 1 K - Hankins continues his strong recent form (.270/.341/.359 in his last ten games).  He is another Captain looking to get a second chance at High-A Carolina (went .216/.326/.270 in 14 games there earlier in the year).
  • Jorge Martinez (Lake County, LF) - 2-4, 1 R, 1 RBI, 1 K - Martinez continues his relatively strong recent form (.250/.270/.306 in his last ten games).  Those numbers may not sound like much until you realize his season slash line is .189/.219/.277.
  • Luis DeJesus (Lake County, SP) - ND, 5 IP, 6 H, 5 R (all earned), 1 BB, 3 K, 1 HR allowed, 1 E. 1 HBP - A poor outing that ultimately wasted an offensive gem that, ironically, kept him from taking the loss.
  • D.J. Brown (Lake County, RP) - L (1-2), 0.1 IP, 2 H, 1 R (earned), 1 K - D.J. Brown certainly picked an inopportune time, to say the least, to have a rare bad outing.
  • Cody Ferrell (Mahoning Valley, CF) - 2-4, 1 BB, 2 K - The undrafted free agent is looking impressive early, but could use some more pop (.282/.404/.359 in 11 games so far).  Sound familiar?
  • Juan Herrera (Mahoning Valley, SS) - 2-4, 1 K, 1 E - A good night at the plate, but eight errors in only 24 games is more than a bit worrisome.  Hard to believe there's a shortstop in the Indians' org with a higher error rate than Lindor.
  • Martin Cervenka (Mahoning Valley, C) - 2-4, 1 K - A good night at the plate, but a very rare one.  He has not exactly played better at the Short-Season level after his demotion from Full-Season Single-A Lake County (.189/.286/.243 compared to .176/.276/.176 in Eastlake).
  • Luis Lugo (Mahoning Valley, SP) - L (1-3), 5 IP, 4 H, 2 R (1 earned), 3 BB, 1 K - Again, not so much a bad outing as a not-perfect one, which can tend to be a problem when the run support is nearly nonexistent.
  • Kyle Crockett (Mahoning Valley, RP) - 1 IP, perfect, 2 K - The requisite mention of a perfect outing here in ATF (at least when I write it).
  • Ben Heller (Mahoning Valley, RP) - 2 IP, perfect, 2 K - Even better, two perfect innings.
  • Clint Frazier (Arizona League, DH)  - 1-4, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 1 K - Only a one-hit night, but Frazier picks up an RBI.  Also of note are his impressive season numbers (.333/.365/.578).
  • Francsico Mejia (Arizona League, C) - 1-4, 1 2B, 1 RBI - Outside of not getting struck out, an identical line to that of Frazier.  Also, the only other player besides Clint to pick up either an extra-base hit or an RBI for the A-Tribe on the night.
  • D'Vone McCkure (Arizona League, LF) - 2-4, 1 R - One of two multi-hit nights for the AZL team on the night, and from the seven-hole, no less.
  • Yonathan Mendoza (Arizona League, 3B) - 2-4, 2 R, 1 K - Here's the other, this one from the eighth spot in the lineup.
  • Luis Gomez (Arizona League, RP) - L (1-1), 2.2 IP, 2 H, 3 R (all earned), 3 BB, 7 K - All four of the AZL pitching performances were poor, but none so bad as as Gomez. Luis gets mentioned here for having the misfortune to give up the eventual winning run.

User Comments

July 13, 2013 - 11:45 PM EDT
Rodriguez and Lindor need to continue playing everyday at shortstop. If not 7 days a week, then at least 5 days a week. Just no way both can coexist in Akron, especially with Ramirez there. The most logical move would be a Rodriguez promotion to Columbus, which probably will happen. There were some hints recently that might happen with Juan Diaz playing a lot of third base, etc the past few games.
Joe Chengery
July 13, 2013 - 10:29 PM EDT
Tony's point is a good one- You can't have 2-3 players sharing SS 5 days a week each and keep enough reps for each of them at SS.

R.Rod at 3B wouldn't be bad, but I still think Urshela still has potential at 3B, especially if his bat continues coming around, and could be the next option if Chisenhall doesn't pan out (though he may be getting more comfortable in Cleveland now - keep it up Lonnie!).

Certainly, there's very little in Columbus standing in these guys' way (including Phelps)- only question is if R.Rod, Ramirez, or both are ready to take on that next level. I'd be curious to see if R.Rod's patience (BB/K ratio) is considerably better since his recent hot streak - he's been in a good groove lately (especially before sitting out with the hamstring). Go Tribe!
July 13, 2013 - 9:10 PM EDT
Congratulations to Francisco. We were his host family last year while he was with the Captains. He is soooo mature for his age and will handle whatever decisions that are made by the organization just fine. Looking forward to seeing "our" Francisco soon in Akron. The Collins family Eastlake, OH
July 13, 2013 - 7:08 PM EDT
Trust the kid in a pregame field the ball...and your worries will go away...

He's major league ready in the field...period...
Joe Chengery
July 13, 2013 - 7:07 PM EDT
Daingean's idea would also work- might be the best idea unless an impactful trade presents itself.
Joe Chengery
July 13, 2013 - 7:05 PM EDT
I, too, am not worried about Lindor's error rate: Most "kids" at that level make twice that many errors, some are older than Lindor, and many of them wouldn't get to as many balls as he does. If I'm correct, Paulino is pushing 40 Es at LC.

I, too, would rather keep the INF prospects unless a notable, impact trade presents itself. Trading 1-2 of them for a reliever or a marginal starter (I.e. 3-5 guy) is NOT my idea of a notable, impact trade. I think either R.Rod, or possibly Ramirez should be promoted to Columbus. That, or Moncrief, and perhaps move one of them (Rodriguez) to OF, though I doubt they would do that because that would impact R.Rod's trade value down the road. Still, I wouldn't push to trade 1+ of them unless the right deal(s) comes (come) along.
July 13, 2013 - 2:13 PM EDT
About them splitting time.......these guys have been playing almost every day for 3 1/2 months.....they have about a month and 1/2 was in early June last year that Lindor started to wear would be only 1/3 of the time the guy gets a break from the field (about 2-3 games a weak)....even last night J-Ram played SS and R-Rod played 2B (per box score)'s not that I'm advocating this but just bringing it up and adding some arguements for it (no need for the arguements against as everyone else has mentioned them) this move might be getting Lindor ready for Arizona Fall League or one of the other leagues in the Carribean this winter.
July 13, 2013 - 12:50 PM EDT
Liked Matthew's post. I also wonder if there is a MI trade in the works. Arguably, these three are top 5 prospects or at worst top 10. I do not care for the idea of sharing time with all three. Better to send R-Rod to Columbus with all the non-prospects than to split time IMO.

I have complained before that this has become a summary of what happened in the minors and is not what the title says about "performances by Indians prospects." All prospects may be minor leaguers but the inverse is not true. Tony likes to focus on the accuracy of the comment which means nothing to me. I care about insights into the players who may be in the majors some day. I have little interest in whether Sabourin gets another single or two. He is not a prospect and Tony knows it. I have no idea where Tony rates him but It would surprise me if he is in the top 50.

I also share your opinion that Cody Anderson's performance is much more worthy of feature than the other pitchers who are not prospects.
July 13, 2013 - 12:16 PM EDT

The thing is, if you don't add a starting pitcher, you are essentially gambling on Kazmir (hasn't pitched in two years), Ubaldo (hasn't pitched well in two years), Kluber (has never had a full ML season), and McAllister (coming off an injury) all staying healthy and staying productive. If we're not "all-in" for 2013, maybe that's not such a bad thing, but if we're serious about contending this year, that ain't gonna cut it.

If the Indians are able to add a starting pitcher with multiple years of control, whether it's trading Asdrubal for young pitching, or trading prospects for a veteran with a long term contract, you would essentially fix two big problems in one move. You can give yourself one more quality starter, and you can move Kazmir to the bullpen which lessens the chance of him getting hurt and also greatly improves your need at LH relief.
July 13, 2013 - 11:59 AM EDT
As for Lindor's promotion to Akron and expectations of trading A-ram oe R-rod i hope the front office does nothing on the trade froint until we see whether Zac Mac has any residual effects of the finger flairing up again we have 17 days which will give zack 3 or 4 starts either rehab or with the tribe but will show whether he can throw all his pitches pain free if he can he is at least a 3rd starter based on a fairly large sample. The development of the split fingered pitch may elevate his status to elite, if that isnt the reason for the finger injury it is called a split fingered pitch for a reason. If he is healthy he has shown a lot and especially on the 1-0 game against i think jake peavy but i could be wrong about who opposed him however the toughest shut out to do is a 1-0 game and it takes stuff and poise of which he would appear to have. Why trade any future middle infield prospect controlled thru 2019 or so to get a starter we may or may not need. the only two acquisitions i would like to see would be either Thornton or Perkins and i would like some sort of control of perkins beyond 2013. And it would depend on what the twins would want for perkins. We are in the drivers seat in some way because we have the plefora of relief prospect major league ready to send in return for him. Arotation thru 93 days of Masty, Ubaldo, Zac Mac (if healthy), kubler, and kid K is more than adequate with salazar and if he can get his head straight the mad scientist
bauer in columbus. not to even mention carrasco.
MT88 in WI
July 13, 2013 - 11:29 AM EDT
I would rather have Ronny Rod playing SS everyday in Cbus than Juan Diaz. At this point Diaz is not even in backup plans to the backup. Remember Johnny Mac was brought back when ACab went down. The 40 man roster spot is needed for other things as well. Move up Ronnie and keep the development going.
July 13, 2013 - 10:45 AM EDT
My only complaint about ATF is that my guy Cody Anderson should have been up top as a feature. I'm kidding, of course. I don't actually care about that, but 7 innings and only 78 pitches, Cody was efficient and dominant. I'm excited for next season when he should be pitching without any kind of pitch or innings limit.

Very excited about Lindor to Akron, but I'm very curious to see what this means for Rodriguez/Ramirez. I doubt it is an injury, since both played in last night's game for Akron. It could be a trade, obviously. If it's a promotion, I think it would be Ramirez rather than R-Rod. I know Ronny has the better numbers overall, but Ramirez has maintained excellent plate discipline all season (33BB vs. 29K) and is now starting to rake, while R-Rod only has 9 walks in 75 games this season. I also think the Tribe wants to get Ramirez everyday reps at SS and see if he can stick there. I guess we'll find out on Monday.
July 13, 2013 - 9:02 AM EDT
Yeah, errors don't mean a lot at the minor league level. The scorekeepers are often tough on the defenders. Also, the other defenders can have an affect on the error totals too (a capable 1B who picks it, etc). I mean, Omar Vizquel had a .935 fielding percentage at 20 years old in High-A.
July 13, 2013 - 8:57 AM EDT
I don't put much stock in minor league error totals. For whatever reason(worse fields, worse teammates?) they don't seem to translate to the big leagues.
July 13, 2013 - 8:54 AM EDT
I don't get why everybody says Lindor's glove is already at the major league level, yet he's committed a ton of errors. I assume it means he is capable of making plays that major league SS's make?

Also, I wouldn't be so hard on Luis Gomez. If I read his line correctly, he got eight outs and seven of them were strikeouts. Yeah, he gave up three runs and had some control issues, but obviously he's got some serious stuff if he can harness it.

I still say these columns are too long. Jorge Martinez? Apparently he got a mention because he's hitting .250 in his last ten games. Whoa! And that .306 slugging percentage is pretty impressive for a left fielder. The guy's hitting .189 on the season, but if he gets two singles in the same game...

Then there's Martin Cervenka, who's hitting .176 in A ball, but he got two singles so there he is as well.

Don't get me wrong, I love ATF, but I think it could be even better if the writers were a little more selective instead of always picking five or six performances from each game (which is half the team) instead of just highlighting the performances by legitimate prospects that were actually noteworthy. Just a friendly suggestion.
July 13, 2013 - 8:16 AM EDT
Good point Rick. That is something they can certainly do, although the problem is that in a given week that Lindor needs to play shortstop at east 5 of the 7 games. They want to obviously continue to play Rodriguez at shortstop every day (or at least 5 days) and also mix in to me there is no way they can have all three there at the same time. The issue is that two guys need to play at least 5 games a week at shortstop, which obviously can't happen.
July 13, 2013 - 8:10 AM EDT
The Aeros might go with a 3 player rotation at 2B/SS/DH with Lindor/R-Rod/J-Ram.......there's basically 2 months left in the season and giving a guy a rest in the field 1 out of every 3 days wouldn't be a bad thing.....they could always give R-Rod some PT at 3B too....

Congrats on the promotion Francisco.....well deserved

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