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Around the Farm: October 20, 2014

Around the Farm: October 20, 2014
Giovanny Urshela (Photo: Elabonado.com)
October 21, 2014
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Around the Farm (ATF) takes a quick look at some of yesterday’s performances by Indians prospects throughout the system. This is a special fall and winter ball version of ATF that recaps all the offseason action by Indians players in the Arizona Fall League (AFL) and the Caribbean Leagues. The positions listed below are where the player was playing in yesterday’s game.

Venezuela Winter League

Giovanny Urshela (3B, Aguilas del Zulia): 4-for-5, 2 R, 2 RBI. It is getting to the point with Urshela that you areexcited for each day to come so that you can see what kind of damage he can do out in Venezuela. He is off to an amazing start this offseason recording multi-hit games in an amazing seven of his 10 games played. He is now hitting .435 with 14 RBI in 10 games. While he has no shot to make the Indians opening day roster, he’s doing everything in his power to convince the Indians that he is ready to make an impact in Cleveland very early next season.

Dominican Winter League

Tyler Naquin (CF, Gigantes del Cibao): 0-for-3. This was just Naquin’s second appearance in the DWL after his offseason debut on Saturday night. He is 1-for-8 so far in his two games and has no walks and 2 strikeouts. He is expected to play a lot in the Dominican which will be great for him from an experience perspective and at the same time allow him to make up a good amount of the last two months of the season he missed due to injury.

Manny Ramirez (DH, Aguilas Cibaenas): 1-for-4, 2B, 2 RBI, BB, K. Yes, it is THAT Manny Ramirez. The 42-year old is still playing and hanging around, and is 1-for-7 in his two games. I am sure that with him playing in winter ball that reports will surface at some point that he wants to try and make another comeback attempt in Major League Baseball.

Rafael Perez (RP, Gigantes del Cibao): 1.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K. Yes, to keep with the former Indians theme, this is THAT Rafael Perez. He is still only 32-years old and had a solid showing in limited time this season in the minors, and could be a depth option that teams look to sign this offseason to a non-guaranteed non-roster deal.

Arizona Fall League

Francisco Lindor (SS, Peoria Javelinas): 3-for-4, R, 2B, SB. Word of Lindor’s demise appear to have been premature as he busted out of a five game 2-for-22 slump with a three hit effort on Monday. He is now hitting a solid .300/.349/.450/.799 with a 5:2 strikeout to walk ratio, but most importantly the reports out of Arizona have been very positive on him.

Jordan Smith (RF, Peoria Javelinas): 0-for-3, R, BB, K, SB. Smith has hits in seven of the 10 games he has played, but he has yet to string together a few good games in a row and go on a multi-hit tear over a few games. He is hitting a cool .238/.289/.357/.646 in 10 games, and probably most concerning is the 11:3 strikeout to walk ratio – a ratio very similar to his problems during the regular season at Double-A Akron.

Grant Sides (RP, Peoria Javelinas): 2.0 IP, 0 R, 0 H, 1 BB, 1 K. Sides was stretched out and pitched in multiple innings for the second time this offseason and had the longest out of his AFL season. He’s impressed in his limited time not allowing a run in five appearances with 6.1 shutout innings and allowed just 1 hit, 3 walks and has 7 strikeouts.

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User Comments

Vic Venom
October 24, 2014 - 11:28 AM EDT
Lets bring Tony Sipp back?? Good god, i have heard it all now folks....

SMMFH
shy
October 21, 2014 - 5:03 PM EDT
Yeah don't bring back Rafael Perez- the guy that Gary Sheffied dubbed " that skinny dude". I would bring back Tony Sipp first- although the Astros really like him and he was pretty much dominant for them this season - took him a good while to learn the craft after coming up as an outfielder. Hopefully we'll soon see the same result in reverse w Carlos Moncrief. Exciting to see Urshela performing so well. Hopefully he's on the natch- he's been steadily getting better for 3 yrs so I have no reason to believe otherwise. Chisenhall has good market value after his breakout first half. How many third basemen in the league have a bat w their name on it in Cooperstown? I might pull that trigger while the gun is still smokin' if I was convinced Urshela is the real deal. Enjoy the series everybody. If Bumgarner can drain a little steam out of the Royals engine tonight, it should be a good series. If not, It wouldn't surprise me if the Royals ran the table.
Homer
October 21, 2014 - 12:48 PM EDT
MLB.coms take on the Indians in the AZ fall league...

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/26271672/v36823903/indians-prospects-prepare-in-arizona-fall-league
Rocky55
October 21, 2014 - 11:43 AM EDT
Is Naquin healthy & ready to go or is there more rehab involved?
BrianM
October 21, 2014 - 10:56 AM EDT
The Cubs told Manny they would have a spot for him with the major league club as a coach as long as he gave up his playing days. You never know with Manny, but I think you may see him finally announce his retirement, at least in the MLB. For being such an odd guy, one does have to appreciate his love for the game. I could see him trying to play winter ball till he is 50.
Tony
October 21, 2014 - 9:50 AM EDT
Agreed Matt. Though will take it a step further and note that even if all of their SS and 3B options get hurt in spring training, that Lindor/Urshela still open in AAA. Indians would make a minor trade or waiver claim to fill those spots in the short term.
Matthew
October 21, 2014 - 9:35 AM EDT
gregg--

As has been pointed out a million times by Tony, zero service time players do not make the opening day roster in this organization. I can't remember the last time it happened. Urshela could homer in literally every at-bat during spring training and he would still open the season in Columbus for 2-3 weeks to gain the extra year of team control, unless Chisenhall, Walters, Aviles, and Raburn all got hurt.

As for the Chiz vs. Urshela #s comparison, at AA as 21 year olds:

Chisenhall .278/.351/.450
Urshela .270/.292/.384

at AAA as 22 year olds:

Chisenhall (66G) .267/.353/.431
Urshela (104G) .276/.331/.473

So, Chis showed better on base skills, while Urshela showed more pop. But Chisenhall's success was sustained throughout his minor league career, while this was Urshela's first truly productive minor league season. He'll need to build on it and continue to show growth in his on base skills before he's an option.

I'm in agreement that Urshela will end up helping this team in 2015. It just won't be until June or so.
Tony
October 21, 2014 - 9:29 AM EDT
Folks, no matter what Urshela does this winter or what he does in spring training, he has absolutely no shot to make the opening day roster. It's the same thing with Lindor. Both are zero service time rookies and we know the Indians stance on opening a season with thone players. They won't be up until May at the earliest. No matter what.
gregg
October 21, 2014 - 9:13 AM EDT
If Urshela is as good with the glove as projected I'm not sure he has no chance of starting the season at 3rd for Cleveland.
As I asked on another page I would like to compare Urshela numbers at Columbus to Chisenhall numbers at Columbus when he was 22.
Walter
October 21, 2014 - 9:12 AM EDT
Urshela is improving his chances being on the team sometime in 2015. He also is increasing his trade value for the Indians. Indians should consider in bringing back Perez on minor league deal with chance to make the bullpen in 2015.

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