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MLB News and Rumors: Cardinals trade Freese

MLB News and Rumors: Cardinals trade Freese
November 23, 2013
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Here are the stories from Friday, November 22nd.

Top Stories

  • The Angels and Cardinals agreed to a deal sending David Freese and reliever Fernando Salas to Los Angeles in return for Peter Bourjos and outfield prospect Randal Grichuk.  St. Louis was looking to upgrade their outfield defense, and Bourjos is one of the top defensive center fielders in the game.  After trading Alberto Callaspo to Oakland last season, the Angels were in need of a third baseman, as well as some bullpen depth.  As for who won this trade, it looks like the Cardinals.  St. Louis gets three years of Bourjos and a top outfield prospect, while Los Angeles gets two years of Freese, three years of Salas, and will have to add on an extra $3-4 million in salary.

  • Outfielder Chris Young reached an agreement with the Mets.  Buster Olney reported that the one year deal is worth $7.25 million.  Young was an All-Star in 2010 with Arizona, but was traded to Oakland prior to last season and struggled offensively, with a line of .200/.280/.379. 

Other News and Notes

  • The Braves hired former Indians GM John Hart as Senior Advisor of Baseball Operations.
  • Jayson Stark is reporting that the Tigers search for a closer has started to lean more towards Brian Wilson than Joe Nathan.
  • Stark also says that Bartolo Colon and his agent Adam Katz are waiting to see if any team will offer a second guaranteed year.
  • Angels GM Jerry Dipoto told MLBNetworkRadio that the team plans on sticking with Ernesto Frieri as the closer for 2014.
  • The Red Sox acquired reliever Burke Badenhop from the Brewers.
  • Jon Morosi tweeted that the Orioles are interested in Jhonny Peralta as a third baseman.

User Comments

November 23, 2013 - 3:42 PM EST
Agreed, Frazier, Lindor, Paulino, Salazar, and Bauer are probably close to untouchable.

Another thought... Scott Sizemore elected FA from the A's, he's missed the last 2 yrs due to 2 separate ACL injuries, but he could be a nice lottery ticket to stash at AAA on a minor league deal.
November 23, 2013 - 3:15 PM EST
frazier looks to be a STUD!!!!!! noway do i want to move him or lindor or paulino they could be the middle of the lineup for 6 to 8 yrs. this ball club won 92 games in 2013 so the cupboard isnt bare by a long shot. so we do not need a hail mary to improve.
November 23, 2013 - 12:59 PM EST
I think it depends on how they feel the new dynamics (range, etc) of the infield would compliment each other. I'm not as knowledgable as some on here about their players so I'll remain quiet on that front.

I won't write it off, but it seems highly unlikely, maybe one of the two teams budge in regards to acq. ACab. I would suggest the Tribe would seem likely to backoff a bit. I think the Tribe could make a move and then look for minor league pitching IF they felt they were qlty and qk moving prospects. But they would have to feel whatever they were bringing in (say a FA pitcher) would improve the team in comp. to ACab.

In other news... the Rangers have resigned Colby Lewis to a minor league deal. I don't know the details, but seems like a very good move by the Rangers. Wished the Tribe had done that.
November 23, 2013 - 11:34 AM EST
I think there is slight chance for Cabrera going to the Cards. Gut feeling is that ship has sailed. Looks like there might be some interest by the Mets. Not sure what Indians would want
from the Mets. Pirates might be looking also looking for SS.

I thinks he will still be our SS on Opening Day. Want him to have bounce back year and great year in which he could be traded at Trade deadline.
Rich S.
November 23, 2013 - 10:55 AM EST
I wonder if the trade of Freese makes it less likely or more likely that the Cardinals would have an interest in Asdrubal Cabrera in a trade with the Indians. I know it was explored last off-season and this mid-season. So potentially the foundation for a trade has already been made. Anybody have any thoughts on this?
November 23, 2013 - 10:07 AM EST
The news DiPoto is not searching for a CL is good news for the Tribe, in a way... One less team shopping for the same spot as the Tribe, could help keep the mkt somewhat reasonable. The Angels will likely be in on a few relievers and there were reports they have interest in Joe Smith.
November 23, 2013 - 9:51 AM EST
Hehe, expected this reaction, but I'd take a clear cut upgrade at 3B over "potential" 3-4 years away from any MLB impact. Indians won 92 games last season and Frazier won't help upgrade on that for the foreseeable future. Guys like him always have more value as a trade chip, but that's just my opinion and mind you, I like him and wanted the Tribe to draft him, but you play to win the game(s), the REAL ones, not the best prospects list one's and I'm one of the biggest prospects nerds out there, but there's a time, when the window of opportunity is opening up, where you have to use those prospects as assets to improve the here and now.

It's a game of percentages with prospects anyway and considering the fact that well over 50% flop, I'd trade that for a 90% clear improvement at one of our few clear positions of need anytime.

We'd would have freed up some much needed money for a SP too if we'd have dealt Bourn, but would have created an OF need or risk, but it would have covered and paid all our offseason needs.
Would have been a wash money wise with Stubbs I think, but at least would have filled two major needs at 3B and a vet BP arm with upside left that is better than his overall numbers look and he'd been controllable to boot.

So to me it still comes down to a big opportunity missed…we had the pieces they wanted in multiple fashion: either Bourn or Stubbs, low cost/lower upside, high cost/higher upside, plus some talented bats in Moncrief, Naquin, RoRod, Frazier, Paulino, JRam (although value him too much and higher than those listed to have him included)…we had enough to get this done and we didn't, simple as that.

I think the Angels made an excellent trade and will win it for the next two season for sure, then it's on Grichuk to develop to tie or win it long term, but I'd never bet on that if I was a GM that is trying to win now. Maybe a GM of a rebuilding franchise, but not for a team like the Cards or Indians.
November 23, 2013 - 9:35 AM EST
Freese is a guy the Indians definitely should have looked into, and I am sure they did. But no way am I parting with a blue chip guy in Frazier for him. I'd be fine flipping a second tier prospect like Ramirez/Rodriguez along with Stubbs/Bourn, but it is clear that money was involved here too.
Kemo Sabe
November 23, 2013 - 9:23 AM EST
Yes Tondo you're crazy.
November 23, 2013 - 9:13 AM EST

I don't think the Tribe can trade Frazier for a full yr after drafting him. I wouldn't make the trade you suggested, but I would have like to see the Tribe offer something like Stubbs and JRamirez for Freese and a young arm.
November 23, 2013 - 9:09 AM EST
1. Bourjos will only make about $1M next season, as opposed to Bourn's $13.5M or Stubbs' $4M. That matters.

2. Yes, you're crazy. Giving up Frazier to get David Freese is crazy. David Freese is a nice offensive 3B when healthy, which he usually isn't. Not the kind of guy you give up a future star to get.
November 23, 2013 - 9:07 AM EST
That trade appears to be a clear win for the Cardinals. I've mentioned Freese several times this offseason as a possible option for the Tribe - I guess we can cross him off the list...

That also seems to indicate that the Cards are moving on from Carlos Beltran. According to Heyman the M's and Rangers are in on Beltran, speculating the Tribe maybe as well. That would be a total shock and may indicate the Tribe are doing some serious shopping in FA mkt. That said, don't hold your breath the Tribe are signing Beltran.

There are rumors the Cards are in on former Indian Jhonny Peralta. He would seemingly be an answer at SS, but I'm not not sure he'd be much of one long term. That said, he'd seemingly offer positional flexibility and a short term answer at SS.

Another thought, Burke Badenhop seems like a solid and cost effective -$ and talent traded in return - add for the Red Sox. He's projected to $2.1 M in arb this offseason. Badenhop posted a sub 3.50 era in 60+ IP with a 4/1 K/BB ratio. Overall, a solid but not spectacular low cost move by the World Series champs.
November 23, 2013 - 9:00 AM EST
Indians should have done this trade for Freese/Salas. Stubbs or Bourn + Naquin.

CalI me crazy, but I would have gone as high as Bourn+Frazier or Stubbs+Frazier+RoRod.
The Tribe has a black hole at 3B since like forever and waiting for Lonnie to get it is not the way to go, he needs to earn it, but I doubt he'll ever hit LHP good enough considering his track record going back to the Minors. If he does at least start to pound RHP, then you'd have a dominant 3B platoon, if not you still have AVG to above AVG 3B production, as Freese is a solid vet that will give you consistent production.

Salas is another Shaw.

Missed oppportunity to improve the team for relatively little to give up. Short term this would be a definite win for the Indians.

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