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Storylines: Donaldson sent to Blue Jays in blockbuster

Storylines: Donaldson sent to Blue Jays in blockbuster
Josh Donaldson (Photo: AP)
November 29, 2014
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Top Stories:

  • Per Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports, the Athletics and Blue Jays have agree on a blockbuster trade as the Athletics are sending third baseman Josh Donaldson to the Blue Jays in exchange for infielder Brett Lawrie, right-handed pitcher Kendall Graveman, shortstop Franklin Barretoand righty Sean Nolin. Donaldson still had four years of control left with the Athletics, but GM Billy Beane is one to never sit idle and keep players around long and received four players in return he thinks help now and over the next several seasons.
  • Billy Beane may not be done with his roster makeover as several rumors surfaced on Friday that he is engaged in serious talks to trade Jeff Samardzija.  According to Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle, the Athletics would receive several players in return. He may also consider trading Scott Kazmir.

Other News and Notes:

  • The Marlins and Royals completed a trade on Friday. The Marlins received right-hander Aaron Crow in exchange for left-hander Brian Flynn and right-hander Reid Redman. There is talk that Crow could move into the starting rotation next season.
  • The Royals re-signed free agent right-handed reliever Jason Frasor to a one year $1.25M deal with a $2M mutual option for 2016.
  • The Nationals are looking to add a veteran right-handed bullpen arm and are considering several possibilities. Two options they have considered in free agency are Jason Motte and Casey Janssen.
  • Outfielder Shane Victorino is set to swing a bat for the first time on Monday since undergoing back surgery. He is expected to be 100% by the start of spring training and he himself expects to be the Red Sox starting right fielder next season.
  • Outfielder Tony Campana has signed a minor league deal with the White Sox.
  • To clear space on the roster for the addition of the players received in the trade with the Blue Jays, the Athletics have designated Josh Lindblom and Kyle Banks for assignment.

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User Comments

Clay
November 30, 2014 - 12:43 PM EST
Hoynes is terrible.

It's bad enough I had to type that but the man gets paid to write that sh**.

I'd love to hear an honest reply from a member of the Indians about what they think of him.
GSon
November 29, 2014 - 9:23 PM EST
In a somewhat related article, Paul Hoynse has told the baseball world that the Indians are "probably" not going to trade anyone to get anyone. Or he doesn't think so.. WOW.. you just can't find inside information like this just anyplace & from just anyone.. What a scoop...




RME...

The specific comment reported via MLB TR is: "....•The Red Sox want starting pitching and the Indians have it, but that doesn’t make it likely that Cleveland would trade Danny Salazar or Trevor Bauer to Boston for an outfielder, Paul Hoynes of the Plain Dealer writes. The Red Sox want pitching, but they would likely want more star power, and the Indians aren’t likely to want to deal Salazar or Bauer for one year of, for example, Yoenis Cespedes.....".
GSon
November 29, 2014 - 9:18 PM EST
Don't discount a further trade by Billy Beane to acquire who he wants for 3B and 2B going forward. The A's have a pretty solid group of pitchers, two of whom will be departing after the 2015 season, so, both those guys are going to be on the block, one way or another..

THoughts?...
shy
November 29, 2014 - 5:09 PM EST
I am sorry to see Donaldson go. I go to a fair amount of A's games in that pit they call a stadium and he is one of the reasons. Looks like an aw shucks-golly gee redneck type w the mullet but the guy is really smart and has a fierce work/play ethic. If he stays healthy- he's had some lower back and hammie problems- he could make the Blue Jays lineup pretty scary to opposing pitchers. I could see Chiz playing 3rd base in Oakland, and I could see Sean Doolittle in Cleveland, but at this point I would prefer seeing them both stay put.
Rocky55
November 29, 2014 - 3:06 PM EST
Read something (I think on BP) that suggests that maybe the A's wanted Lawrie to play 2b & could sign Headley to play 3B. Supposedly the money for Headley/Lawrie would be the same as Donaldson/Asdrubal, who was plugged in as the best available 2B FA. They then would trade some of the specs for other needs. Sounds far-fetched & convoluted but the writer can't otherwise account for the dichotomy between trading Donaldson & signing Butler. Signing Butler also left me scratching my head. I would go back & link the article but links don't work in the comments.

Chiz, Salazar, Gonzo & a spec; as we say in Georgia, I might could do that.
Homer
November 29, 2014 - 2:56 PM EST
Lots of chatter that Shark could be headed to the White Sox, and that the A's have talked Justin Upton and Evan Gattis with the Braves. I could only guess the Braves would be asking for Shark for Upton. The Marlins reportedly have interest in Brandon Moss, and I've heard chatter (previously) the A's might be willing to move LH hitting RF Josh Reddick. Could be a flurry of moves coming before the Winter Mtgs go down. Btw, there's some speculation that the A's will jump in on Headley and move Lawrie to 2b. Lots going on, lots to talk about.
Homer
November 29, 2014 - 2:44 PM EST
Tondo,

I'll take you on up Blanks. Blanks is huge 6'6 265-285, maybe he should have played football. He's got intriguing power, a guy Id be willing to take a flier on, but, I really don't see him getting claimed or traded at this point. If he becomes a FA I would give him a spring invite, but at this point there is nothing to him that says, sleeper to me. He falls in line with Michael Taylor the former A's prospect. I wouldn't be surprised to see either salvage an MLB career as a corner OF / 1b, but I'm not banking on it either.
Tondo
November 29, 2014 - 2:27 PM EST
I'll ask again, since it got no traction: Am I the only one interested in Blanks? He's not the big bat all of us want to see, but he's a realistic upgrade that wouldn't cost anything. Who's in? And if not, tell us why
Matt underwood
November 29, 2014 - 2:16 PM EST
Still plenty of time in the offseason however it is tough to have much faith in this front office to make a move to get this team over the top. Seemingly gun shy to make any sort of splash, if only the statement was true : "prospects will get GMs fired." In clevelands case they receive extensions and promotions.
John M
November 29, 2014 - 12:45 PM EST
You never know, the A's may have rather had Urshela than Chiz.
John M
November 29, 2014 - 12:44 PM EST
Tony,
Chiz, Salazar, Gonzo & Prospect - I'm in. Donaldson obviously makes losing Chiz a non-factor, Gonzo is one of many and the prospect is only a prospect. The question then is, are you willing to lose Salazar to get one of the best 3B in the game for four years? Um, yes. Salazar, while possessing an electric arm, has proved nothing to this point and has already had TJ surgery. That deal should've been a no-brainer for the Tribe then sign Masterson back. BB obviously has some fascination for Lawrie.
Brandon
November 29, 2014 - 12:27 PM EST
I think that Oakland's obsession with defense would've really hurt Chis' value in a deal with them.

Do teams actually trade players of this caliber without shopping them around first? It seems like obvious due diligence.
Homer
November 29, 2014 - 12:22 PM EST
Graveman added a cutter to his reportoire and plowed through A ball to the bigs last season. He's got a lot of hype, and really took off. If Lawrie could stay healthy, he could be as good as Donaldson. Nolin has been knocking on the door for a few seasons now. Barreto, is a talented SS, but a few yrs away. Short term this is a good deal for the Jays. Long term, it could be a good deal for the A's.

What's done is done. The Indians can cry over missing on Donaldson, and (perhaps) rightfully so, but they'll have to move on.

I think they should turn their attention to getting a controllable bat either in a trade or in FA. I'll throw out some names we've discussed already... Evan Gattis, Jay Bruce, Chase Headley, Alex Rios, Brandon Moss, and Josh Reddick. Any of those six represent an upgrade for the Indians. Then there's guys like Daniel Nava, Shane Victorino, Yoenis Cespedes, Scott Van Slyke, Marlon Byrd, Ben Zobrist, Mark Trumbo, and Dayan Viciedo that might also be possibilities.
Chip
November 29, 2014 - 12:17 PM EST
The Tribe brass isn't going to block Urshela at this point. He has their attention and they want to find out what type of player he is going to be. If in 2 years he is hitting .280 with 20 HR then the cost to get Donaldson and pay his salary is not proportional to what they would gain by adding him. Defensively, Urshela looks to be as good as it gets.

The pitching prospects that the A's got in return are marginal. Hell, Tomlin would have been a better target then those 2, especially in that ballpark. The Indians need a good development year for their pitching to be sure. With that in mind, any minor trades or rule IV pickups to acquire more would be wise.

I'm not disappointed that they didn't get Donaldson and I think he is a great player. I also love the way he plays the game, but not at the cost to obtain him. I read in one of the posts that belittled Gonzalez. I'm telling you that he is a true top notch prospect. So much so that losing Lindor in a trade would not be that devastating. His star is rising and I'd bet that he'll be in the top 100 by this time next year.
Seth
November 29, 2014 - 12:11 PM EST
House is better than the 2 pitchers the A's got. But Lawrie is still a "potential" star, if he can stay healthy, and if the injuries haven't already permanently set him back. Lawrie is obviously the guy they wanted. Chiz is not Lawrie. Hard to argue that Lindor wouldn'thve been a better return though. A's could have got Lindor and then signed Headley for 3b. But the Indians aren't trading Lindor, so they aren't getting anyone near Donaldson.
Homer
November 29, 2014 - 11:46 AM EST
Looking at this deal for the A's they add a cheaper perhaps more talented Brett Lawrie who has trouble staying healthy, but they also added three prospects Barreto is 3, Nolin 9, and Graveman 15 according to MLB.com. The A's system was pretty void of talent outside of a handful of guys. The equivalent for the Indians would have been...3 Tyler Naquin, 9 Joe Wendle, and 15 Dylan Baker according to MLB.coms rankings of the Indians farm system. Btw, MLB.com doesn't even rank Yu Cheng Chang in the top 20, has Paulino at 11, and Bobby Bradley at 20. So take it with a grain of salt.
Tony
November 29, 2014 - 11:45 AM EST
Folks, House doesn't get this deal done. But I fully believe Chisenhall, Salazar, Gonzalez plus ANY prospect not named Lindor does. And I would strongly consider that.
John M
November 29, 2014 - 11:33 AM EST
Tony,

Don't you think then that if House was the only thing holding that deal back then today Donaldson would be an Indian? I don't think Tribe brass lets that stop it from happening. I think Beane really likes Lawrie and probably wanted one of the other young arms which would have to have been a real internal struggle for brass to make that choice. Donaldson could have really helped.
Seth
November 29, 2014 - 11:20 AM EST
Tony, the Indians have nothing to match Lawrie unless Lindor was traded. Even discounting the fact that Beane must like Lawrie more than most, he's a guy who's performed pretty well when he's been on the field. I'd have totally traded Lindor, House and a prospect from the lower levels for Donaldson. If Lindor turns into half of Donaldson value-wise, that will be a good thing, and House is replaceable, would just mean that they would have to sign someone like Masterson this year. I wonder whether the Indians would ever be interested in Donaldson though, maybe they figure they don't have the $ to add an arbitration player like him, and they want to hang onto their cheap POTENTIAL talent in Lindor, etc. Again, sucks that Cody Anderson had such a poor year, if he'd continued to progress he'd have been great trade bait.
Roger
November 29, 2014 - 11:14 AM EST
Tony,
I maybe wrong but it seems to me that a package of Chiz-Chaing-hagadone-and lee would have been more that Toronto gave to get donaldson. Unless either our brain trust (Tito, antinelli, shap) has higher opinion of chiz or beane has lower opinion of chiz, would have been superior to what oakland got for donaldson. we would hve kept the starting five in tact and retained JRam lindor et al. it doesnt mke sense to me how good do you perceive lawrie to be tony?
Tondo
November 29, 2014 - 10:35 AM EST
If the Indians could have gotten Donaldson for Chiz, EGonz, House and Plutko/Anderson/Baker/ANY spec SP, THEN they missed out. I really think EGonz is incredibly overrated and any GM talking to the Indians is probably asking for either Lindor or JRam, feeling like getting the 3rd prize if they got Gonzo, which is perfectly understandable.

That said, no way they would have gotten him without one of Lindor, Salazar, Bauer, so it's a moot point.

How about claiming Blanks who was DFA'd? Straight up for Raburn and be done with it, or for Price, Maronde or Brewer
Canadian Joe
November 29, 2014 - 10:12 AM EST
Interesting take on this Tony. In discussing all these names for RF, it amazes me how many are left handed hitters. It doesn't seem that long ago that lefties were at a premium, and hard to get. Nowadays, it is the other way around. Guess if you want your son/grandson/great grandson to grow up and be a ballplayer, have him hit right handed. Still like Van Slyke though.
Homer
November 29, 2014 - 9:52 AM EST
I wouldn't be surprised to see Beane move Shark or Kazmir or both. Wouldn't mind Kazmir coming back, but no way the Indians should be in on either unless it's part of a larger deal.

Two others I think we will see in trade rumors, Brandon Moss and Josh Reddick, both LH bats, but both offer some pop, Moss can man LF, RF, and 1b, Reddick is primarily a RF. Both Moss and Reddick would be upgrades in RF if the Tribe went after one or the other inspite of their LH bat.
Tony
November 29, 2014 - 9:49 AM EST
Canadian Joe, this is a sneaky move. Not much news on this at all. No leaks or anything. Makes me wonder if a lot of teams even knew he was available in a trade or if Beane was shopping him. Just a strange trade. Perhaps Beane really, really had his sights on a certain player or so in exchange and they felt Lawrie was a perfect fit plus what they are getting in return. Who knows. Because the Indians could have blown this deal out of the water even without trading Lindor. Erik Gonzalez and Barreto are a wash. Both top 10 prospects with Barreto maybe the higher upside but much further away, so proximity to MLs for Gonzalez evens that out. This probably comes down to Lawrie viewed higher than Chisenhall, plus the Indians not having two pitching prospects to the level or the other two the A's got. Graveman and Molin are two ML ready arms, something the Indians don't have in AAA (the closest is Will Roberts). Cody Anderson is maybe the closest thing but we know he's not ML ready (though has more upside). So the Indians could have easily traded Chisenhall and Gonzo but the difference is they lacked the two ML ready starters the A's wanted. Unless the Indians were willing to part with one of Carrasco, House, Salazar or Bauer.
John M
November 29, 2014 - 9:45 AM EST
And I would still target Kemp, but that would involve getting the Dodgers to chuck in tons of money, which would involve, you guessed it, guys like Lindor/Salazar/Frazier, etc. That could get ugly, too, but he's one guy who could make a big impact and is at least, like Donaldson, available for the right price.
John M
November 29, 2014 - 9:41 AM EST
My guess is that the A's liked Lawrie better than Chiz, would have had to have Lindor (not Ramirez) to compensate, and the Tribe didn't have any pitching they wanted that wasn't already in CLE rotation.
Case of not as good of a 3B for 3B swap, plus pitching cost would've been too high in return for Tribe.
Would you have dealt Chiz/Lindor and one of Bauer/Salazar/Carrasco PLUS House?

Me, neither.

That being said, if there was one player out there this off season that the Indians should've gone all out for it was Donaldson. He could've made a huge difference in the order and defensively.
GSon
November 29, 2014 - 9:38 AM EST
Another classic Billy Beane move would include taking the spoils of a trade and flipping them or making a complex three team deal for who he wanted anyway.. In this case.. it appears the A's are courting the Atlanta Braves for Justin Upton and Evan Gattis. While the A's may have what the Braves want, Beane would be more apt to send a Rule V eligible guy or a guy or guys that really don't fit long term but can play some (Chris Carter.. Michael Choice.. etc).. Any third team would be getting not much after all is said and done..so BEWARE !!
Canadian Joe
November 29, 2014 - 9:28 AM EST
Tony, what do you think it would have taken to get this deal done ? Judging by what the A's took, perhaps not as much as we might have thought.
Tony
November 29, 2014 - 9:09 AM EST
Joseph's last 30 or so comments have been about the same thing with the same tone. I'm all for letting people speak freely but eventually enough is enough. He shouldn't be posting here much more now.:)
GSon
November 29, 2014 - 9:09 AM EST
@Homer..It would make part of this off season a success to see the Indians pass on either Denorfia or Morales, who, imho, are David Murphy-esque players.. These two guy's will have their moments.. but, for the most part.. are FA's because they're just not complete players at the caliber of Josh Donaldson or Matt Kemp.. Wasting limited resources on players who won't deliver and haven't delivered is a problem this front office continues to struggle with. It's time to stay the course save for the IMPACT player that can be acquired while not creating new holes in the ML roster of the minors..
Rocky55
November 29, 2014 - 9:01 AM EST
Hadn't noticed Tony's comment. So, Tony, to what pieces were you referring? Who would you trade for Donaldson?
Walter
November 29, 2014 - 8:57 AM EST
Well just maybe the A's did ask for Salazar Lindor and Frazier.and the Indians should and probably did say no. Maybe the A's were not interested in any other players the Indians had to offer.

Looks like the Shark is next to go.

Kudos to Jeff Ellis on being right that the A's were willing to trade Donaldson this off season. The price the Indians had to pay and were not willing to pay.

Rocky55
November 29, 2014 - 8:48 AM EST
In looking at the pieces & plugging in Tribe guys, I have Chiz for Lawrie, with an edge to Lawrie as the better athlete & fielder. I have House for Nolin, with an edge to House for ML success & steady improvement. I have Chang for Barreto, I'm not sure who has the edge there but I really think Chang is going to be good. Now, Graverman? I can't think of a comp for Graverman. Maybe Cody Anderson after a good year in CBus; or maybe we didn't have all of the pieces.

Also, I don't see why people are plugging Lindor & Frazier in on this trade. The A's didn't get anything like a Top 10 SS spec in AAA like Lindor & the bat that they did get doesn't comp with Frazier.

I'm glad we didn't do this trade, I'd rather just spend money on Headley.
GSon
November 29, 2014 - 8:40 AM EST
@Clay.. your take has some of the best intuition presented in this discussion.. (Joseph is a blithering idiot escapee from Cleveland.com, his comments are always the same: Indian stupid, everyone else smart)..

When you speak of Billy Beane's prowess in trades.. it's true. He seldom loses a trade and usually, it's not even close. When you examine what the A's are receiving, start with Brett Lawrie. an uber talented over intense kid with amazing upside and a ten cent head that won't let him get to the end he desires, Bareto and Nolin are both future ML'ers, especially Bareto who can probably step in and play SS defensively right now.. Sean Nolin has the appearance and stuff that says INNINGS EATER. He'll be in the A's rotation before the 2015 season reaches its end.... Graveman is a throwin.. a nobody who will only see a ML stadium if he buys a ticket..

The deal screams AA is tired of Lawrie's childish crap, Nolin wasn't going to be all that anyway and the two other guys are too far away. Billy Beane, on the other hand looked for an undervalued asset and got it in this deal.. a classic Billy Beane move.. In short, in three years, no one is going to remember how bad Lawrie was in Toronto...make no mistake.. the A's will miss Donaldson this year.. perhaps some in 2016 too..

Could the Indians have made this deal.. sure.. replace Lonnie with Lawrie, Lindor with Bareto, Cody Anderson with Nolin and throw in Dorsyss Paulino as the guy buying a ticket.. In three years, the Indians fans would be wondering why the hell did Chris Antonetti throw away the magnificent play of Lindor for a too expensive 3B who the Indians will need to trade?!!...

That's why CA didn't do it.. and why Billy Beane did.. We'll see..

Thoughts?....
Homer
November 29, 2014 - 8:39 AM EST
It's hard to gauge what the price was or rather would have been for the Tribe. Looking at what Oakland got, a major leaguer in Lawrie, two big league ready arms, and rookie ball SS. The Indians simply did not have two big league ready arms that they were counting on. The Blue Jays have depth in their SP, even after trading away a ton of talent the last few yrs...I have said for sometime the Indians could get anything they want IF they have SP depth. While the Indians have depth, it's still largely a yr or more away.

There's NO WAY I would trade Chisenhall, Lindor, House, and Frazier for Donaldson. As much as I like Donaldson, he is not worth that kind of haul. It's that simple. However, that's probably what the A's would have asked for from the Indians, to me, the difference is the two SP prospects the Jays sent. Both are big league ready arms. The Indians could have offered an OF or SS and a SP in their place, but frankly, the A's wanted two SP prospects the Indians didn't have to give.

Let's go for a more realistic trade proposal...something I think is comparable.
Chisenhall, JRam or Ramsey, Anderson and Chang.

Honestly, I don't think that's enough to get the deal done in comparison, because the Indians simply didn't have an arm (House?) to add to the deal without depleting their own SP rotation.

It is not the end of the world, but I will be disappointed if the biggest thing the Indians do is add Chris Denoforia or Kendrys Morales. It's hard to know because they could be close on another big trade. Who knows...that's one thing we fans often know little about, (on going trade talks).
Homer
November 29, 2014 - 8:05 AM EST
I pointed at Donaldson as a piece that could put this club in the WS, I think they are one/two pieces away. Frankly, I don't care that they have Urshela...I like him, but he is not the same caliber as Donaldson. When an opportunity like this presents itself, they have to take advantage of it. Donaldson is easily one of the best 3b in all if baseball offensively and defensively. He's a RH middle if the lineup bat with four more yrs of control. The Indians simply missed out on an opportunity to add an AS player that fits everything they need.

He meets all the prerequisites for the Indians, and they were probably gun shy. Idk, maybe they never talked to Oakland. Maybe the Indians have another deal close. 3b is not their most pressing need, but I can guarantee Donaldson is a huge upgrade over Chisenhall. Hopefully, the Indians can find a long term answer at 3b and RF.
gregg
November 29, 2014 - 6:44 AM EST
Thank goodness the Indians didn't trade Lindor, House, and Frazier for Donaldson; espescially with Urshela just about ready.

They need a right handed right fielder not a third baseman.
alton
November 29, 2014 - 5:52 AM EST
The take is not overwhelming for Oakland but they did get two starters that appear to be ready to get a shot in a big league rotation, a starting third basemen, and an interesting young SS prospect. Given the indians have Chisenhall and a wealth of SS prospects but how many major league ready pitching prospects do we have.........that would be zero folks. Unless you want to gut 2/5 of our rotation that is. Tomlin and ZMac are not prospects they are depth.

We have some young arms that might develop but we don't have anything to offer that would be ready to start the season in a big league rotation that aren't already here. If that was the requirement, we were coming up short.
Tondo
November 29, 2014 - 5:51 AM EST
And Lawrie has as much upside as Donaldson if he can stay healthy. Durability might have been the reason tha Jays made this trade.

Looking at the splits, Lawrie was actually better vs RHP. It's against LHP where the difference is, not so much an everyday upgrade as people think.

Jays have a history of poor trades/decisions. A's vice versa and this trade will cement that
Clay
November 29, 2014 - 5:48 AM EST
Lol @ Joseph. Actually can't tell if you're being serious anymore and mocking the Cleveland.com crowd or stuck playing baseball simulations.

Anyway, yeah disappointing we did land Donaldson but I refuse to dismiss any trades Billy Beane makes. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and Beane and his crew get it right more often than not.

As for some of the names mentioned that our posters believe it would have gotten the deal done? Of course it would have, and I for one would have been more upset that we traded Lindor, Frazier, & House along with Chisenhall. It's possible, and likely, you're overvaluing what the Indians have stocked up vs what other teams do. If Beane took the deal Toronto offered, you can't do anything about it and we don't have any info of what teams inquired for Donaldson, let alone the Indians. There are in fact, 28 other teams out there that didn't make this deal

Is it frustrating? I guess. Think about all the angles though. Indians have Urshela expected to be healthy to start the year. Lindor/Ramirez & Urshela will easily improve probably the biggest hole this team has, infield defense.

Is it as sexy a move as dealing 3-4 players for Donaldson? Not to the public, but as Ive entered my 30's I learned to look at all the angles & accept what I can't control.

And that brings us back to Chisenhall. Clearly the Indians are content in allowing him to man 3rd for the time being and see if he can put together an entire season rather than 2 months.

I fully expect this post to be ripped apart. I'm not trying to defend not getting Donaldson. I would have been thrilled to get him at the right price. To me that isn't Frazier, Lindor AND House etc.

That, and it's not even December yet. But clearly patience isn't abundant around here for some.
Tondo
November 29, 2014 - 5:44 AM EST
A's will win this trade by a wide margin. We will look back at this and say "what were they thinking"

Would have taken Lindor+Urshela+Plutko+Chang to match this

No way I'd do this for two more wins "best case"
Joseph
November 29, 2014 - 5:04 AM EST
We desperately need a middle of the order hitter. Donaldsen would have been a perfect fit. Tell me "where is Antonett"...sitting on his hands?...Just another typical Indian off-season. We watch as other teams get stronger and Antonetti brings in relievers...who nobody heard of.
Joseph
November 29, 2014 - 4:55 AM EST
What a disgrace! Hitters are flying off the board...and where is Antonetti? Probably out there looking for another cheap reliever. You tell me we couldn't have gotten Donaldsen but the Blue Jays get him for not much more than nominal minor prospects? Antonetti should be fired and Dolan ...please sell the team.
Rich S.
November 29, 2014 - 12:55 AM EST
Tony,

Why do you believe the Indians weren't in on this deal? Are they going to be passive this off-season like they were last year. It would be disappointing considering Antonetti had a great off-season after 2013.

Brandon
November 29, 2014 - 12:44 AM EST
Lindor, House and Frazier would blow this haul away. Looks like the deal that wasn't made will come back to haunt us.
Seth
November 29, 2014 - 12:34 AM EST
My biggest question is, what is wrong with Beane? First they spend $30 million on Billy Butler, now this. Like the Fister trade, it's a move that I could easily see Kevin Towers making, but when you see a guy who's otherwise been a solid GM make a move like this, it's a head-scratcher. Beane must have an irrational love of Lawrie.
Seth
November 29, 2014 - 12:24 AM EST
The indians seem to truly think Lindor is untouchable though, which is why I don't see them making any major moves. Without Lindor, the Indians don't put together a package that beats that. With Lindor, they should have been able to beat it. Lindor, House, Frazier I would think beats what they got.
BrianM
November 29, 2014 - 12:22 AM EST
Ughh. Totally agree.
Tony
November 29, 2014 - 12:06 AM EST
Disappointing. The Indians should have been all over Donaldson. They had the pieces to get that deal done.

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