Storylines: Salary commitments could limit Indians
- The Kansas City Royals and Baltimore Orioles have been in purgatory as far as it pertains to any playoff chances for numerous years. The Royals haven’t been in the postseason since 1985 and the Orioles haven’t advanced this far since 1983. Both teams will be facing each other on Friday and will finally get the chance to make history by advancing to the World Series for the first time in two decades for either team. Mike Moustakas and Eric Hosmer have been the clutch hitters for the Royals throughout the playoffs along with their tough rotation and bullpen headlined by James Shields and Greg Holland. The Orioles do not have as strong a rotation or bullpen as the Royals but they do have a lineup that can outhit almost any team in baseball. The signing of Nelson Cruz is possibly one of the best offseason signings in baseball history by Baltimore as he is having an MVP season with 40 homers and 108 RBI.Adam Jones and Nick Markakis are also adding clutch hitting and power to the lineup. This should be an exciting series with a lot of highlights and memories to follow.
- Nick Swisher has won the Bob Feller Act of Valor award. Los Angeles Dodgers HOF manager Tommy Lasorda and Senior Chief Petty Officer Carl Thompson of the U.S. Navy were also recipients.
- According to MLB.com's Jordan Bastian, the Indians have about $72-75 million in salary committed to 2015 with returning players under contract and predicted costs in arbitration. If they operate under a similar budget they have the last two years at $80-85 million, then they have about $8-13 million to spend this offseason.
Other News and Notes
- Giancarlo Stanton will earn around $13 million as he goes through arbitration for a second time.
- Anthony Andro of FOX Sports Southwest reports that catcher J.P. Arencibia and third basemen Kevin Kouzmanoff have chosen free agency over outright assignments by the Texas Rangers.
- According to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports, the Colorado Rockies have promoted Jeff Bridich to GM after the unexpected resignations of Dan O’ Dowd and Senior VP Bill Geivett.
- Evan Drellich of the Houston Chronicle reports that the Houston Astros payroll could increase by $20 million. The money could possibly be used in other ways than signing free agents.
- Chris Cotillo of MLB Daily Dish reports that Los Angeles Dodgers reliever Brian Wilson will exercise his player option for next season. It is said to be worth $9.5 million.
- According to George A. King III of the New York Post, the New York Yankees will not pursue Cuban defector Yasmany Tomas.
- According to Chris Cotillo of MLB Daily Dish, Ryan Dempster is officially going to retire.
- Andy Martino of the New York Daily News reports that Los Angeles Dodgers GM Ned Colletti’s job security is in question after losing to the San Francisco Giants on Tuesday. This is the second year in a row they haven’t advanced to the World Series.
- The Texas Rangers have interviewed Pittsburgh Pirates bench coach Jeff Banister and Chicago White Sox third base coach Joe McEwing for the manager position.
The stupid argument that a new owner automatically means they'll spend trillions upon trillions of dollars in order to prove that the Dolan family doesn't like puppies. Or baseball. Whatever.
Or the augment that the Dolans are cheap because the Indians don't spend recklessly on FA and give untested Cuban players massive contracts that eclipse most any deal the club has handed out in its own history.
That or the argument that attendance will just go up when the team spends more money. Well it didn't work so well in 2013 after giving out the two largest deals in club history.
The Dolans are to Jacobs as Jhonny Peralta was to Omar Visquel. There's a lot of revised history there and unwarranted hate because they're different in so many ways.
You're telling me that if Indians got a new owner and lets say got a new president and gm and wanted to spend BIG TIME DUCKETS, that attendance wouldnt go up? Give me an owner that will shell out the dough for big time hitters. I want an owner that will go after Stanton and pay him HUNDREDS of millions. I want owner that will go get me a Yosmani Thomas and dish out 70-80 million. It's a joke that the Tribe have never even had a guy with a hundred million dollar contract.
my issue are the two morons deciding how to spend the money - shapario and antonetti.
if i am the Dolans, i would beside myself with anger thinking "all these years fans have called us cheap, we take your advice and spend insane amount of money and years to players and this is what you come up with??!! get the hell out of here - there is the door."
Free Agency has helped player's salaries escalate and increase fan expectation, but generally does not yield results. The Orioles got luck this year. Most of the other teams not so much. Adding salary in the offseason or in mid-season does not necessarily mean championship re: the Blue jays, A's, Angels and Yankees and to some extend the Tigers. All big spenders in the free agent market in past years or added salary for the playoff push.
Today hero is in all to many cases tomorrows bum Josh Hamilton, Joe Votto , Nick Swisher, Jimmenez, Pujlois, Howard and Jose Reyes to name only a few - most because of injuries but still. When you land a Cruz , Batustia, or Yan Gomes you are truly fortunate. Not sure how much skill or how much luck is involved in inquiring/retaining players - probably 60-40. Hindsight is much better than foresight. Next season Kipnis could have a break out year or maybe be so bad he has to be replaced/released. Same goes for anyone else on the roster. Making up does not count for much Jody Gerut and Jeremy Sower are two players who I heard had great makeup and intelligence to make adjustments, but neither really had success after their initial season. But speculation is fun and that is why we play the games.
it's an adversarial relationship because let's face it... Dolans did hardly anything for the first 10-12 years they were owners of this team too. Then openly admitted they overpaid(NO ONE TOLD YOU, YOU HAD TO BUY THE TEAM)... In saying that. Now that they are a good team they should be getting more support
Phillies fans believe Amaro is the worse GM in baseball having a huge payroll and old team.
Rockies fans believe they had the worse GM in baseball until he resigned yesterday.
Reds fans believe Walt Jocketty is worse GM in baseball for signing huge contract extensions to Votto and Bailey that has tied up payroll flexibility.
Maybe now Dodgers fans believe they have the worse GM in baseball. Being the most expensive team that can not get out 1st round of the playoffs.
I guess the worse GM in baseball is determined where you live and what the circumstances of team that fans don't like.
This ignores the fact that while the Indians were 20th in payroll this season, they were 29th in attendance. If they were 20th in attendance, that would mean 700K more tickets sold, and payroll would be $100M easily.
I will never understand why fans expect teams to operate at a loss in order to pursue championships. That's bad business, and these teams are (with a few exceptions) run by good businessmen.
"Did they throw away almost $40 mil 2 years ago with nothing to show. "
IMO those signings changed the dynamics of the franchise - along with hiring Francona. Two years ago we made the playoffs and this year we were in contention until the last weekend. Things have radically changed for the better and we have reason to believe they will continue to improve.
The general thought that salary totals should be approaching an average of $ 100 MM sounds a little low if teams like the Dodgers, Yankees, Phillies, Red Sox, and Tigers are included.. That group has an average payroll that is 120 % higher than the league average. The bottom two teams are nearly 120 % below the league average. Remove those seven teams as "outliers" from the mix and the Indians are at 98 % of the league average for salary. This in one of the smaller markets for MLB.
In short.. the amount is correct for a business to operate and make a small profit. Spending more needs to be accompanied by an increase in revenue.. Otherwise, this is no longer a business, it's a charity that only burdens the ownership. I seriously doubt anyone who reads or posts in a forum such as this would start a business, run the business for 20 years and continue to pay for the shortfalls out of their own pocket.
Nothing would change if new ownership arrived.. The same business model exists: X amount of revenue in has to equal or surpass X amount of costs out.. This isn't rocket surgery.. Whining that ownership isn't spending is hogwash.. Every year, this ownership spends.. and it appears that won't change anytime soon. This ownership is stable and pro-Cleveland.. The ownership lives here and supports the city.. None of the other franchise owners in this city do the same.. Yet, this is the only franchise that gets singled out as not spending.. Brain science should tell anyone who wants to hear.. the Indians and to some extent the Cavs have been the two sports franchise that have been relevant w/r to winning a league championship in the last decade.. or more..
The Indians do not have a GREAT team.. but they do have great leadership in the dugout.. and great leadership in the owners suite. That should be celebrated.. but, it's not because.. stupidity, like that shown in articles repeated over and over by the dying one newspaper in the city continue to be printed. They are untrue and misleading stories that the weak minded continue to swallow..
Also, does anyone have any idea if the team lost money this year?
Add 3.5 MM more by not signing Aviles.