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Storylines: Tomas signs with Diamondbacks
Yasmany Tomas (Photo: AP)
November 27, 2014
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  • According to Jesse Sanchez of, free agent outfielder Yasmany Tomas has agreed to a six year $68.5 million contract with the Diamondbacks. The deal includes an opt out after four years and only needs a physical to be completed to become official. The Giants were the runner up for his services.

Tribe News: 

  • In a matter of hours the Indians have bowed out of theChase Headley sweepstakes as they consider him too expensive.
  • The Indians have been in contact with Kendrys Morales and Chris Denorfia. The Indians originally had interest in Morales back in 2006 when he defected from Cuba. Denorfia would be looked at more as a potential platoon option in right field with David Murphy.
  • The Indians have traded left-handed pitcher Scott Barnes to the Orioles for cash considerations. Barnes was designated for assignment earlier in the week in order to add the recently acquired Charles Brewer to the roster.
  • Several former Indians minor leaguers have signed minor league deals with new teams. Right-handed pitcher Gabriel Arias has signed with the Diamondbacks, shortstop Juan Diaz signed with the White Sox, lefty Aaron Laffey signed with the Rockies, infielder Cord Phelps signed with the Phillies and right-handed pitcher Bryce Stowell resigned with the Rays.

Other News and Notes:

  • According to Jason Stark of ESPN, the Phillies are open to receiving offers for left-handed pitcher Cole Hamels. They have only received one actual offer, one they felt was good but not enough to land Hamels. The team that made the offer is unknown but it is a team that has yet to be mentioned publicly in relation to Hamels rumors.
  • Jason Stark also reports that the Yankees have inquired into the availability of shortstop Jimmy Rollins, though due to a steep asking price from the Phillies the Yankees have moved on.
  • Andy Martino of the NY Daily News says that any potential Troy Tulowitzki trade to the Yankees is a longshot and that the Yankees are reluctant to add another big contract. On top of that, the feeling in the industry is that Tulowitzki is not available.
  • The Rays signed right-handed pitcher Ernesto Frieri to a one year $800K deal with the potential to make a little over $3M if he reaches several performance-related bonuses. To make room on the roster the Rays designated infielder Sean Rodriguez for assignment.

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User Comments

November 28, 2014 - 12:17 PM EST
I posted a trade idea on the boards under the offseason tab.

The Indians have previously been tied to Kemp. Although, I have heard nothing in that regard this offseason one could speculate the clubs could have mutual interest in working something out.

I doubt that's the Tribe would be willing to be tied to Kemp for five seasons unless the Dodgers did kick in some cash over the same term. In the suggestion I made, I included Michael Bourn going back to the Dodgers along with Scrabble, and a few other pieces in return for Kemp, Lee, and $20M cash.
November 28, 2014 - 11:28 AM EST
Just a quick note.. it's not the two best players.. it's the Indians # 4 starter, and two prospects....prospects that define the depth of the Indians farm system.. catchers and middle infielders..i.e. dealing from surplus..

Comparing Nick Swisher with Matt kind of a reach.. Finally getting to full health, Kemp played 64 games after the All Star Break, hit .309/.365./.606 while hitting 17 home runs, driving in 54 runs including 35 extra base hits in his 73 hits in 236 AB's. This is an offensive MONSTER.. not Nick Swisher..

The prospect the Indians bring with Kemp, Chris Anderson.. is every bit of a top of the rotation pitcher the Indians are in desperate need of from their farm system.. He'd be the guy that would be ready to replace whoever falters from the Indians already young starting staff.. The 22 year old Anderson is poised and ready to bring his big frame and big arm to the North Coast during the 2015 season.. not sometime in the far distant future.. The cash for this deal can be used to reduce the Indians payroll for the 2015 season by $5 MM or raise the average payroll for the next two years by less than $ 5 M, but, with the services of the NL MVP candidate who is now completely healthy..

For the most part.. this kind of deal is a hybrid of the kind of deals Indians fans have seen when the stars of the team are departing because they aren't affordable.. well.. I say hybrid in that the return of an SP prospect.. bodes well for the Indians future while the present is more than adequately improved..

Prospect hyperbole.. has been a lot of what the Indians have been about.. Kemp would be a LOT like what the Royals got when they brought in Shields to "boost" the one area of the club that needed it the most.. RH Slugging...

November 28, 2014 - 1:58 AM EST
I agree with Matthew. GSon, that is one awful deal for the Tribe. Our two best young players for a guy whose shelf-life is looking a lot like Swisher and a far away prospect? No thanks...
November 28, 2014 - 12:10 AM EST
If Ramirez could be flipped for a bat like Van Slyke then I would do it in a heartbeat. Ramirez is a solid player, but he also happens to play a position of incredible depth for the Indians. He's going to be on the bench by midseason, so may be worthwhile to strike while the iron is hot, especially since Lindor could be up by the first week or May. I can live with Aviles or whoever at shortstop in the short term.
November 27, 2014 - 10:42 PM EST
That's a ridiculously bad deal for the Indians. They're giving the best 2 players in that deal.
November 27, 2014 - 9:54 PM EST
This is the deal that the Dodgers fan and I have agreed to:

Indians get Matt Kemp, one of Alex Verdugo, Scott Schebler or Chris Anderson AND $35 million cash
Dodgers get Francisco Lindor, Danny Salazar and Tony Wolters.

Now.. who here says the Indians should pass on this?..

A few notes..

Alex Verdugo would have to be the PTBNL as he was drafted in the 2nd round of the 2014 draft.. Even so, he was able to get nearly 200 AB's with a .353/.421/.511 triple slash for this physically gifted, unbelievably strong armed RF'er. as an 18 year old in Rookie Ball..

Scott Schebler is a bit of a strike out prone masher who also hits for average..his bat is his ticket to the ML. He's a naturally gifted hitter that puts the barrel of the bat on the ball..

Chris Anderson is a 22 year old potential TORP SP.. he has a heavy heavy heavy FB that he can approach triple digits with.. and a late breaking slider that reminds you of Korey with a K's.. Mr Anderson could become what Danny Salazar is current scratching the surface of... but with a 6.4" 220 pound frame that throws down hill with a FB that can't be lifted by ANYONE's bat..

I'd take Verdugo or Anderson over Schebler.. and Schebler is by no means chopped liver..


November 27, 2014 - 9:49 PM EST
Trading JRam for SVS or for anyone would be filling a whole and creating another, unless, they backfill the position with Aviles, Lindor or Gonzalez. Here's where I suggest they could pickup Emilio Bonifacio as a UTL piece. Bonifacio is what I think Ramirez could become. That is speedy, solid defender with ability to man multiple spots. However, I think JRam might have more upside.
MT88 in WI
November 27, 2014 - 7:47 PM EST
I'd vote no to the SVS for Jose Ramirez.
Have been Pushing the idea of Chisenhall for SVS for a few weeks now.
Like where Homer was headed with his idea (creating a package)
November 27, 2014 - 6:56 PM EST
IDK, qlty starting SS are few and far between. If a team (Dodgers) think Gonzo is as good or better than Lindor they might view it a steal.

I think give them the option between Gonzo and Ramirez add in one of Scrabble or Hagadone and I think a deal is close. I had heard Zach Lee lost a bit of prospect standing with the org. after posting an ERA over 5 last yr. Id try to get him to balance the deal.

I'm not sold SVS is an everyday player, he's had limited appearances over the last three yrs, so it's hard to say.
Canadian Joe
November 27, 2014 - 6:38 PM EST
I believe it will take more Homer. At the same time, don't the Dodgers have a glut of outfielders ? This could all be window dressing on their part to try and drive up the price. I would still listen. He could be a great fit for the Tribe.
C'mon Tony. You started this discussion. What do you think ? What would it take ?
November 27, 2014 - 5:55 PM EST
I think they would have to be motivated to move Van Slyke he's an affordable bench piece for them, they have no need to move him, but offering them an exp. LHRP like Scrabble might get their attn, add Gonzo an intriguing SS and balance the deal with scuffling RHSP prospect Zach Lee and a deal might be hatched as I outlined in a previous post. From my understanding Lee has lost some prospect luster for the Dodgers, so I think turning him into Gonzo might satisfy them.
November 27, 2014 - 5:18 PM EST
One of the MLBTR articles a couple weeks ago mentioned how LA had no interest in trading Van Slyke. He would be a great fit, but we probably need to get over that idea.
November 27, 2014 - 2:39 PM EST
@Homer Make the calls and get it done!
November 27, 2014 - 2:35 PM EST
I think Hagadone or Scrabble might be enough to get SVS from the Dodgers. They might need to expand the deal to get it done. Maybe...
Indians get...
Scott Van Slyke
Zach Lee
Dodgers get...
Erik Gonzalez
Canadian Joe
November 27, 2014 - 1:40 PM EST
BTW, Happy Thanksgiving to all from God's frozen people in Canada !!!! Celebrate and enjoy !!!!
November 27, 2014 - 12:57 PM EST
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

I hate to see Ramirez go anywhere. It's just too exciting to think of an infield of Urshela, Lindor, Ramirez, Santana, and Gomes. That is one helluva infield defense, and it would improve upon the already rock solid pitching staff.

The Dodgers need a LHRP and it just so happens the Indians have a couple they can choose from in Scrabble and Hagadone. I'd even reluctantly throw in Gonzalez if needed, and I think Gonzalez is as good or better than Lindor. He is certainly starting to catch the eye of scouts is what I'm understanding. So offer them a choice between Scrabble and Hagadone with Gonzalez included. That should be enough to land Van Slyke. If it's not then go back to the drawing board or sweeten the deal with a lower level prospect.

In regards to platoons, I hate them. They are a serious drag on roster flexibility and cumbersome on bullpens. If this team could rid itself of Murphy and Raburn then it could carry an extra BP arm to lessen the strain of a 162 game schedule. They could get more consistant ab's for Aviles in that situation too or give someone like Ramsey or Naquin an chance to prove themselves incase Bourn can be dealt. So if the afformentioned should happen you clear 3 spots with Raburn, Murphy, and Scrabble/Hagadone and you add Van Slyke. That would leave them with some serious flexibility, or maybe I'm just full of stuffing!
November 27, 2014 - 12:53 PM EST
This is kind of off topic, but I would like to see an article about potential rule 5 guys for the Indians. BA just put up a pretty detailed list of guys who will be available. I would like to see Calloway have the opportunity to work with one of these "project" type guys with the hope that we can add another RH arm with premium stuff to the bullpen.
November 27, 2014 - 12:02 PM EST
Tondo, I agree with you completely re JRam. One need only look at where other "good" players were at his age.

Some of the salary numbers being thrown around are beyond comprehension. These numbers scream for the value of farm system talent.

We had about the lowest attendance in the majors last year (Tampa?). Somehow this issue has to be recognized as reality in considering who the Indians can add.

I must say I amused at the discussions of trading Swisher. To me it is clear - our best hope is that he is healthy next year and has a decent - if not great - season.

The trade discussion I would like to see is about trading value for value to get more right handed. Chiz for an equivalent righty? Kip for an equivalent righty? We desperately need to get an additional productive right handed bat in the lineup.

Canadian Joe
November 27, 2014 - 11:57 AM EST
Tondo, see your point, and would sooner deal Gonzales as well. I guess the point is can Lindor step in sooner at shortstop if need be. As I mentioned, don't like Aviles there for any more than a day or two. Maybe Gonzo, a reliever and a AAA outfielder might do the trick. Really like Van Slyke, but not at the cost of creating another problem. Would be nice to know if they have seriously talked to Dodgers at all, because there could be a fit there.
November 27, 2014 - 11:28 AM EST
Jose Ramirez for Van Slyke. Like or dislike?

..."hate" is more like it and I really like Van Slyke.

Trading JRam would be a cart before the horse kind of thing. Fact is, he's the best SS the Indians have in the entire org right now and he has lots of upside left. So far he has passed every test with flying colors, jumping levels, showing capable of playing SS at the ML level which almost nobody expected. That's the kind of player you don't trade. He will play through 2015 as a 22yo, remember. What he has done is nothing short of incredible and he still seems to be undervalued even by prospect nerds around here. It's like when they blossom and reach the Majors quickly, they become less "sexy".

JRam's career path is a GM's dream come true. He's the position player equivalent to Crockett. Those guys should be considered untouchable.

We don't even know if Lindor will be better. People even act as if EGonz is a better prospect despite being older combined with worse performance on a much slower development path.

Speaking of selling high, EGonzo is the guy I would look to use as a trade chip. Admittedly, I'm not a believer but even his biggest supporters have to realize that he's blocked short, mid and long term in this org and he's due to regress considering his BABIP and jump in stats while going up a level. He's 23 and if he struggles or puts up medicore numbers (his Akron numbers are actually the outlier in his career stats), then his trade value takes a huge hit.

Something like EGonzo+CC Lee/Price for S.VS. If that's not enough, I'd consider one of the AAA OF along with Gonzo, but no way I'd give up JRam for a player that, best case, blocks the plethora of OF in the upper minors, leaving the middle of the infield with lots of questions marks (Lindor? Kipnis?)
November 27, 2014 - 11:14 AM EST
First of all, Happy Thanksgiving all.

Second of all, to get Van Slyke, I'd try to trade them Gonzalez with Tomin or some of our AAA bullpen depth as the second piece before trading Ramirez. Prefer to keep Ramirez because I have doubts about Kipnis staying at second past this year. Could see Kipnis going to LF in 2016 if they can trade Bourn.
November 27, 2014 - 11:06 AM EST

I'm working from the assumption they would move Chisenhall to RF. I have my doubts Headley gets $15M per yr, he might, but I doubt it. Plus, the Tribe could work with Headley's deal at $11 per yr (or slightly more) this season with little Murphy. Like I said, I think Headley falls around 4/$52-$56M. Maybe as low as 4/$48. The only way I see him getting $60M is if he gets 4/$48 with an option yr to bring it up to 5/$60.

The Tribe could trade Murphy, keep Bourn and Swisher and look to trade one or both next offseason when they have one yr remaining on their deal. As for Urshela, he could become trade bait or might eventually push Headley out of 3b. Let me talk that out, let's say, they trade Bourn next yr slide Brantley to CF, Headley to LF and Urshela to third.

As for offering a option, it would be a vesting option and the thoughts of an option yr could potentially get him to sign. I'll use Bourn as an example of a player that signed because more money was available...the accounts I've heard, Bourn had the same offer from the Mets excluding the option yr.
Canadian Joe
November 27, 2014 - 10:56 AM EST
Hmmmm ! A monkey wrench from Tony. Ramirez has good value right now. Is Gonzalez ready to step in to the role Ramirez now has ? If he is, deal is worth considering. Don't like Aviles bridging the gap till Lindor is ready to step in.
November 27, 2014 - 10:46 AM EST
Jose Ramirez for Van Slyke. Like or dislike?
Canadian Joe
November 27, 2014 - 10:36 AM EST
Trading Bourne or Swisher would be huge. Make $$ available to sign/trade for a fixture in RF. Who, I don't know. Not sold on Rios, and Headley may not be an option. Would like Van Slyke really, and would overpay a bit to do it. Dodgers have some needs. Could make it fit.
November 27, 2014 - 10:30 AM EST
Canadian Joe,

Completely agree, my assumption is if they get/got Headley then Chisenhall is the RF. I'm not in for platoons, historically (recently) it has not paid off for the Tribe. It counts on two players to perform to their peak, and to stay healthy. Id rather see them go for one proven player plug them in and play.

Two players I have been "in" on them signing this offseason is Chase Headley and Alex Rios. One or the other...both if they could move Swisher or Bourn. If Mark Trumbo or Dayan Viciedo become available I think the Tribe might have interest.
November 27, 2014 - 10:16 AM EST

When the Tribe made the Victorino offer, they weren't loaded down with bloated, untradeable contracts.

When the folks in the know are predicting 4 yrs./$15 million for Headley, why would he take 4 yrs./$11 million from us? Are you saying that the option year would swing the deal?

I'm not convinced we need Headley when Urshela should be ready this season & will offer similar defense & projects to a similar bat. Do you envision being able to get decent return on Urshela or Chisenhall or do you propose to groom either for the RF job?

If you trade Ramirez, who plays SS until Lindor is ready & who plays 2B if Kipnis goes down?

Bonifacio killed LHP last season but the two previous ones he pretty much sucked. He might be an okay addition but I wouldn't count on too much production.
Canadian Joe
November 27, 2014 - 9:39 AM EST
I would sooner like to see the Indians obtain a full time right fielder, with RH power. Then re-work the bench a bit. Perhaps deal Murphy, cut Raeburn, and do some tweaking. Tired of platoons. Though the movie was good !!!!
November 27, 2014 - 9:19 AM EST
I would consider 4 seasons for Headley. He's been relatively healthy throughout his career. He has had some minor nicks the last few yrs, but I would be working with the assumption that he offers great value at third for three of those seasons. If I recall correctly, the Indians were willing to go 4/$44 for Shane Victorino. Id be willing to make a similar offer to Headley with a vesting option (550AB and a physical).

As for trading Jose Ramirez, I think he should be available for either a RF or SP. There's no need to move him, but if a team made an offer I couldn't refuse I would make the deal.

If they traded Ramirez, would they be willing to sign a player like Emilio Bonaficio? I think he should be a target for them regardless. This Chris Denoforia news tells me they consider adding a platoon player in RF, I hope he only gets a minor league deal if they are seriously interested in him. It may have been checking in. Interesting they would consider Morales, I like him, but his lack of positional flexibility tells me they are searching for an additional bat anywhere.
November 27, 2014 - 9:05 AM EST
Asking price and what a player actually gets are entirely two different things. Think a few yrs back Michael Bourn wanted $100M. Most recently, Yasmany Tomas wanted $100M. He got $68.5M far from his asking price.

No doubt Headley's market has been bloated by the recent signing of Pablo Sandoval and Hanley Ramirez. That means the third base mkt is thin, with the loss of two of the premier players at the position. It also means the top SS (Ramirez) is off the mkt. I seriously doubt Headley's gets 4/$60M. However, I think he might get slightly less 4/$52 to 4/$56. I wouldn't be surprised to see him land as little as 4/$48 with a vesting option for a fifth season.
November 27, 2014 - 9:01 AM EST
I would take Cespedes before I consider Kemp. I would trade Ramirez to the highest bidder for max value.
November 27, 2014 - 8:32 AM EST
Re Headley's price, I heard a guy on MLB Network throw out 4 yrs./$15 million; glad the Tribe isn't in on that.
November 27, 2014 - 6:58 AM EST
Tony, that is exactly what types of moves that Billy Beane has perfected and one i want o see CA capitalize on. Strike while the iron is hot. Use of that excess value.
November 27, 2014 - 1:12 AM EST
How about calling the Dodgers and doing a Kipnis for Kemp deal?

Tribe would be taking on 11 million a year for 5 years,but Kemp is a great fit.Kipnis let's Gordon slide back to SS for the Dodgers.

Tribe's strength in the minors is all up the middle, a Lindor /Ramirez keystone combination is more than just interesting.

I'm afraid of Kipnis being another Asdrubal Cabrera,living off one good season and costing way more than his so so bat and lousy glove are worth.

Plus a blockbuster like this is probably the only thing the Tribe can try to get people to come out to the ballpark.
November 27, 2014 - 12:40 AM EST
I'd like to keep Ramirez unless we're overwhelmed. If Kipnis gets hurt he's the one guy on the roster that I'd be comfortable manning 2B for any appreciable amount of time. Not sure if Erik Gonzalez ever played there & I'm not sure I'd trust Walters. Not to mention we don't have a SS to open the season if Ramirez gets traded. I don't want Aviles there until Lindor is ready. Seems like punting the season to me.
November 27, 2014 - 12:00 AM EST
Lots of talk that the Dodgers, Yankees and several other teams are looking for shortstop help. Seems to be a favorable market to trade one if you can. I am beginning to wonder if the Indians should consider trading Jose Ramirez and getting potential peak value for him, especially since he is expected to slide into more of a reserve role once Lindor arrives later in the year.

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